All gears act like neutral

mrallard11 · 2023-02-26T00:52:26-0500

I'm getting on the interstate in 2nd gear and I get on it just a little bit and then it starts to rev up so I let off and put it a 3rd and I started driving and it was fine, I was out with friends and didn't mess around the rest of the night and then picked up someone else told him it happened put it in 2nd did a couple 20-40 pulls to show him what I did and on the 3rd pull, all gears went into neutral including reverse tranny fluid is very light redish brown but no leaks anywhere. I can't tell if it's low or not what would be the problem? It also does not go into gear. It has around 4-5k miles on it rebuilt with hd2 trango kit shift kit

BlkGS · 2023-02-26T19:11:10-0500

Is the gear shifter real floppy and soft, like it just saw a naked granny? It could just be the trans cable bushing. I just had to replace mine.

mrallard11 · 2023-02-26T23:31:12-0500

BlkGS said:
Is the gear shifter real floppy and soft, like it just saw a naked granny? It could just be the trans cable bushing. I just had to replace mine.

I don't think that's the problem I underneath while it was being shifted and it was working fine. The shifter moves it just doesn't engage in any gear. I'm thinking a bad pump but I don't know enough about transmissions yet to say that's the issue, just a thought

Mitch808 · 2023-02-27T02:09:18-0500

If bad pump, you can hook up a line gauge and check pressure. There is a hook up for that.
Any codes shown for the trans?

mrallard11 · 2023-02-27T07:56:02-0500

I checked while accessory was on but not the ignition and nothing came up im assuming for the trans codes to show it has be running?

BlkGS · 2023-02-27T13:54:07-0500

All codes should come up with the vehicle.on but not running. The computer stores them.

Rmvurtop · 2023-02-28T03:34:02-0500

Is it awd?? Is it the intermediate shaft stripped

lkurek · 2023-03-01T21:38:03-0500

I'm going with a fractured pump stator. I blew mine out on my 4.2 truck.... same exact symptoms with the same mods. No leaks, no funny noises, etc... just didn't move at all.

Oh, you can check for a stripped int shaft by having up both ends and seeing if wheels turn in drive. With no load on front or back, they will spin. If they do, then shaft is probably bad

TightTBSS · 2023-03-02T16:47:55-0500

mrallard11 said:
I'm getting on the interstate in 2nd gear and I get on it just a little bit and then it starts to rev up so I let off and put it a 3rd and I started driving and it was fine, I was out with friends and didn't mess around the rest of the night and then picked up someone else told him it happened put it in 2nd did a couple 20-40 pulls to show him what I did and on the 3rd pull, all gears went into neutral including reverse tranny fluid is very light redish brown but no leaks anywhere. I can't tell if it's low or not what would be the problem? It also does not go into gear. It has around 4-5k miles on it rebuilt with hd2 trango kit shift kit

Is it AWD or rear wheel drive ?

mrallard11 · 2023-03-04T14:28:07-0500

08 awd

mrallard11 · 2023-03-07T12:49:55-0500

Pump broke and 2nd gear band cracked

Mitch808 · 2023-03-08T10:08:36-0500

At minimum get a sonnax boost valve in the pump they are cheap and take no time to put in. Also get a new drum and a wide band clutch installed.

There is more preventatives that can be done in the valvebody, but from your two immediate failures, those two things are worth swapping

miketx · 2023-03-15T14:30:36-0400

Mitch808 said:
At minimum get a sonnax boost valve in the pump they are cheap and take no time to put in. Also get a new drum and a wide band clutch installed.

There is more preventatives that can be done in the valvebody, but from your two immediate failures, those two things are worth swapping

What is a wide band clutch?

Mitch808 · 2023-03-15T15:10:39-0400

miketx said:
What is a wide band clutch?

Similar to this. Vs the stock band which is around 2.2" wide. Usually an alto red or this raybestos black or borg Warner are what to get. There are different clutch types and carbon ones are often not for street vehicles

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Again you need a new drum for this too to match

miketx · 2023-03-15T16:21:03-0400

Ok, you mean a wide band. Got it. Wonder how that works? You can't make the drum any wider.

Mitch808 · 2023-03-15T17:33:08-0400

miketx said:
Ok, you mean a wide band. Got it. Wonder how that works? You can't make the drum any wider.

More surface area on the drum... The stock sized band has lots of room to be larger. This is why this part exists. It's only dollars more than the OE sized one that it's a no brainer. You should as a best practice replace that drum too with any build to ensure flatness. So for a few dollars more why not?

Though this is often not the M.O of many cheap Trans shops.

miketx · 2023-03-15T19:19:45-0400

Mitch808 said:
More surface area on the drum... The stock sized band has lots of room to be larger. This is why this part exists. It's only dollars more than the OE sized one that it's a no brainer. You should as a best practice replace that drum too with any build to ensure flatness. So for a few dollars more why not?

Though this is often not the M.O of many cheap Trans shops.

Ok, so they don't use a bigger drum just a band thats a little bigger.

Mitch808 · 2023-03-15T19:48:20-0400

Correct. It's only 0.2" larger but now applies to near all of the drum.

Of course check play and you might need a new pin and then have to adjust from there too. Don't follow the atsg manual for specs. Basically divide their recommended specs by about half. Then you're in the ball park for proper clearances

miketx · 2023-03-16T06:00:19-0400

Mitch808 said:
Correct. It's only 0.2" larger but now applies to near all of the drum.

Of course check play and you might need a new pin and then have to adjust from there too. Don't follow the atsg manual for specs. Basically divide their recommended specs by about half. Then you're in the ball park for proper clearances

What pin are you referring to? What's wrong with the atsg manual? Clearances for what?

miketx · 2023-03-16T06:01:30-0400

Mitch808 said:
More surface area on the drum... The stock sized band has lots of room to be larger. This is why this part exists. It's only dollars more than the OE sized one that it's a no brainer. You should as a best practice replace that drum too with any build to ensure flatness. So for a few dollars more why not?

Though this is often not the M.O of many cheap Trans shops.

I just check the drum with a straight edge. If it's flat, it's flat.

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