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Ok Guys I took my mods to the track for the first time, Ok first off the bolt on guys getting in the sub 13's have nothing in there trucks when they are running, I mean they take out everything, even the front passenger seat.

Ok My mods are extensive, Me and Balisstik SS have the same mods except I have Cam and Heads, and Catless Headers.

Ok So here is how it went out of the whole, the trucks were evenly matched

My 60 ft was 1.87 at the best
on that same run my Trap speed was 102.99 and I ran a 13.11 (Temp 68 Degrees / 660ft above Sea Level)

I lined up against BalistikSS and out of the hole we were close, I give him the benefit of the doubt on the jump because it was my first time, I also had all of my interior trim in the truck, But once he hit second gear his truck pulled at least 2 trucks on me. So something is not dead right for my tune. PLEASE HELP! I thought with my dyno numbers and my $14k worth of mods i should run 12.6 with my eyes closed. I think my trap speed should have been above 106MPH

Any info is appreciated
 

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You need to talk to Skiba :)

Are you running cold air like he is?

And as far as front seat, I can tell you Pedro and Tony are running full interior. Minus Jack, spare and I think Tony pulls his stereo amp.

You are running a converter I assume with that 60'?
 

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You need to talk to Skiba :)

Are you running cold air like he is?

And as far as front seat, I can tell you Pedro and Tony are running full interior. Minus Jack, spare and I think Tony pulls his stereo amp.

You are running a converter I assume with that 60'?
Yes Sir Vig 3400, and here is more info for the time of the run

Density Altitude 1578 feet
Absolute Pressure 29.243 inches Hg
Relative Density 95.46 %
 

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Maybe my calc is wrong but your DA was about 2400 when I figure it. Corrected to about 12.74 at 105.9.

Gonna look at it on Alvins cool calculator he posted.


You did not say. What are you doing for intake? Through the wheel well?
My intake is a CAI Vector, using the stock box, and there IAF relocator, Balisstik has a sick setup, I dont have time to set that up, maybe i should offer up some cash and have him help me. Well he was running 12.8 to my 13.1, I should be running at least what he was in the temps
 

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Well I guess it depends on soak and everything but running a Vector intake and HSRK it takes me 3/4 of a track to get substantial timing back when I am soaked.

My testing with the HRSK proved that it did nothing :(

You can bet that Balisstick is getting good air and fast and even if he is soaked he is his timing back faster.

Its amazing how these trucks will run a couple degrees over ambient when you start them cold, but stop them, let them soak and its hard to get them to cool down.

The stock airbox SUCKS. There is little cold air flow. They suck as much underhood air as they do cold air through that cheesy headlight opening.
 

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Well I guess it depends on soak and everything but running a Vector intake and HSRK it takes me 3/4 of a track to get substantial timing back when I am soaked.

My testing with the HRSK proved that it did nothing :(

You can bet that Balisstick is getting good air and fast and even if he is soaked he is his timing back faster.

Its amazing how these trucks will run a couple degrees over ambient when you start them cold, but stop them, let them soak and its hard to get them to cool down.

The stock airbox SUCKS. There is little cold air flow. They suck as much underhood air as they do cold air through that cheesy headlight opening.

Really you think that the Air box mod could be worth 2 tenths, If so I am down to do it.
 

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I honestly have no idea. Did you log your IATs?

Think about how much timing a soaked truck pulls. That can be a lot on a "typical tune"

Open up a DA calculator and run it with 68 degree air like you had. Assume your IATs were 100 degrees. Add that number and see how many tenths your corrected changes.

I am sure that big ass intake he is running sucking AAT is cooling down a lot faster than you are.

I am not saying that is all of it, but I know if I sit in the staging lane and soak I can make a run and go around without slowing down and run again and pick up a couple tenths at times.

As soon as I can find someone that can weld the plastic on the washer tank, I will have a tube going through it !
 

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I honestly have no idea. Did you log your IATs?

Think about how much timing a soaked truck pulls. That can be a lot on a "typical tune"

Open up a DA calculator and run it with 68 degree air like you had. Assume your IATs were 100 degrees. Add that number and see how many tenths your corrected changes.

I am sure that big ass intake he is running sucking AAT is cooling down a lot faster than you are.

I am not saying that is all of it, but I know if I sit in the staging lane and soak I can make a run and go around without slowing down and run again and pick up a couple tenths at times.

As soon as I can find someone that can weld the plastic on the washer tank, I will have a tube going through it !

I forgot to mention I have 100% of Torque Managent on.
 

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I dont know for sure on the TM what is worth but I know its a lot. I am pretty sure Skiba removes most if not all of that. Ask him.

This is a scan of my truck with a canned tune. 50% TM according to Vector. Not sure what the deal was but I have seen stock tunes with less.....

Anyway, the truck pulls huge timing at a dig. Then at each shift. (see arrows).

That is a lot of timing !
 

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I dont know for sure on the TM what is worth but I know its a lot. I am pretty sure Skiba removes most if not all of that. Ask him.

This is a scan of my truck with a canned tune. 50% TM according to Vector. Not sure what the deal was but I have seen stock tunes with less.....

Anyway, the truck pulls huge timing at a dig. Then at each shift. (see arrows).

That is a lot of timing !

Ok it pulls alot on yours, now imagine how much i am loosing with 433 and 422 so I believe we have found the culperit
 

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Well its some for sure.

Stock I was running 22 degrees timing and it dropped to 15.5 for the 1-2 shift and 17 degrees for the 2-3 shift

Timing at a dig... -8.
oK I need to get it removed 100%, How can i tell if my TCM is Locked
 

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Why would you think its locked?

There is an article on HPtuners site about removing TM.

Here is a screenshot of my original ADM tune which was supposed to have 50% TM.

Note its zero

VECTOR LOCKS THERE TUNE, Chris told me it has Full TQ Management ON. If someone local to chicago can help me remove it, I would be more than glad to remburse them for there time
 

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All i dropped was the 3 seats and the spare, i didnt take out the interior trim. That would be like door panels and things like that. The weight difference between my truck and yours was only 3 seats worth (you also dropped the spare) Something is way off, i expected you would have been close to 11's, or low 12's. Maybe in the tune? Wrong combo of parts? anyone have any ideas? I would love to see his truck in the low 12's. Im also expecting mine to beat my 12.8 when the tune is done. I went [email protected] 60ft-1.78
 
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