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Old Dec-10-15, 04:04 AM   #1

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Alright, so i picked up my TBSS with the intention of it being a family and toy hauler. Its hard to get the lady, kid and dogs in an extended cab S10.

I have a 18' aluminum bass tracker. its light, dont know the exact weight, but i could easily tow it with the v8 s10 in OD without worry. i also have a 16' utility trailer that is used to haul everything that wont fit in a truck bed. I do tow frequently. The boat stayed hooked to the truck almost all summer. we were on the water 75% of weekends.

My concern here is that im reading a lot of issues about a marginal TBSS cooling system. which is one thing i was hoping to get away from with my v8s10.

Should i go ahead and get an aftermarket larger radiator and call it done and never worry about running hot and overheating or am i being a little to cautious.

Everyone gets a little bitchy when you gotta pull over and let the truck cool off or when you have to turn the AC off on the long hills.

EDIT: the tbss has a PCM of nc brake duct trans cooler and LS1 e-fans.
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I used to tow a 20 ft 4000 pound camper with stock rad, ls1 fans, stock thermo and a pcmofnc trans cooler. never overheated. just tow in 3rd so you don't blow your trans and you'll be fine


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I used to tow a 20 ft 4000 pound camper with stock rad, ls1 fans, stock thermo and a pcmofnc trans cooler. never overheated. just tow in 3rd so you don't blow your trans and you'll be fine


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thanks for the feedback. im still on the fence about this.
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Really the stock radiator is just fine, especially if you keep the mechanical fan. If you'd like to go to e-fans you may want to get the spal set up.

BUT I'd be more worried about trans temps. Get an auxiliary trans cooler from PCMofNC and you'll be fine.


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The stock cooling system is more than adequate for pretty much everything you can throw at it. Try to keep the converter locked at cruise and trans temps will be just fine as well. This is a truck built to tow 5000-8000 lbs after all...
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Fair enough, I will keep the stock setup and test it out this summer. I am going to pull the radiator and clean it and the condenser, there is a lot of bugs and road grime built up on both.
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Towing in 3 all the time would be awful. I'd only worry about doing that if it's constantly changing gears while you're cruising or the converter isn't staying locked.


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Towing in 3 all the time would be awful. I'd only worry about doing that if it's constantly changing gears while you're cruising or the converter isn't staying locked.


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agreed. I try and run in OD whenever i can as long as the load isnt toooooo heavy. But sometimes load and terrain dont permit it.
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When I was bone stock I towed a buddies s10 xtreme on a full car carrier with 4 passengers and gear and drove it in 3rd from Dallas to Houston in 105* Texas heat. Of course I was only doing 50-55 mph because I was worried that I was beyond the 6000lb trailer limit. It did fine with no hiccups. Would I do that again, no. But just saying its possible. I wish I had my Torque app to monitor trans temps back then to see how bad they were.
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When I was bone stock I towed a buddies s10 xtreme on a full car carrier with 4 passengers and gear and drove it in 3rd from Dallas to Houston in 105* Texas heat. Of course I was only doing 50-55 mph because I was worried that I was beyond the 6000lb trailer limit. It did fine with no hiccups. Would I do that again, no. But just saying its possible. I wish I had my Torque app to monitor trans temps back then to see how bad they were.
That makes me feel better.

I think i am going to clean the radiator and condenser fins real good then run it as is for this summer.
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at wat RPM does the stock converter lock?
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Depends on more variables than just RPM. Ground speed, engine load, throttle %, etc.
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Depends on more variables than just RPM. Ground speed, engine load, throttle %, etc.
haha too funny.. i was under the impression that a converter locks at a certain RPM regardless of conditions. i tow my quad on a harbor freight trailer pretty much every sunday for about 50 miles in total to the trails we ride at. my aeroforce gauge gets around 200 trans temp. i am on long island NY 11542 i do not have a oil cooler or any mods truck is 100% stock, only reason is because i have figured out if i want to build my truck or 2001 ws6 lol ... question is i dont know exactly when or what the "lock up" feels like i may just get my stock set up tuned and a lvl 5 tranny and be done with it... it runs like a dream my truck best investment yet!
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It's harder to feel with a stock converter but lock up almost feels like an additional gear that drops the engine speed a little and makes it feel a little more firm - as if it's a manual transmission. Like I said its harder to tell the difference with a stock converter because it has such a low stall speed.

With your load, any converter should not have an problem locking up and unless there is an issue with your truck I'm sure it's locking up just fine.
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here is an hptuners table of lockup speeds.
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truck did great on small trip today.
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so i towed the quad a little over two hours from home. truck did great. it was 50ish*F outside and coolant temps were rocksolid at 190* on the highway and the trans temps were 160-170.

towed the load real nice, had plenty of power and did exactly what i needed it too.
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