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Old Apr-12-08, 12:53 PM   #1
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Has anyone tried these plugs? I saw ion HP TV they made about 6hp on an
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I wanted to try them when I changed my plug wires a while back, but they didn't have our application at the time. Now I see they are availble, so I might give them a try. Haven't heard good or bad from anyone yet thou.
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I wanted to try them when I changed my plug wires a while back, but they didn't have our application at the time. Now I see they are availble, so I might give them a try. Haven't heard good or bad from anyone yet thou.
I'm gonna swap to them when I put on headers in two months. I viewed the same show and am definitely interested. If nobody has posted anything by that time (I'm sure they will) I will do a lil write up.
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I didn't see it but my dad told me about it.. The BFSC dropped.. Regardless of the engine being carb or EFI (didn't see the show) the fueling shouldn't have changed.. BFSC is measred by a little turbine meter on the fuel feed.. if less fuel is being used it was likely leaned out and thats where the power came from.
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oh....damn....hoping for cheap power
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They look to be shrouding the spark area with too much metal between the spark flame & combustion chamber to me. Nitrous doesn't like a lot of electrode either so it seems to to 180* from what cold plugs do. All that metal on top would be like a glow plug for more dets for sure. LOL
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Anybody try these out yet, they seem to be a easy option.
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Old Jul-25-08, 02:46 PM   #8
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tick with what is proven. NGK TR6
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Hate to quote myself, but...

I did buy these, I bought the E.54 plugs which are the equivalent of the NGK TR6 plugs...

I'll be putting them in this weekend, but at my power-level I don't expect to see any real difference.....

I'm also only running Alvin's 91 Octane tune, running 93 Octane, so again, I don't think I'll see any differene until I step up to his 93 Octane tune...

We'll see, I'll keep everyone updated...
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"Thank you for your interest in E3 Spark Plugs. The next colder plug to
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How much did they run you and were did you getem? What gap are you going with.
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These caused a knock sesnor code to come up in my wife's Accord. I switched back to NGK's and it went away.

I also lost about 40-50 miles per tank full. I had them in for about a month. They seemed ok at first.
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Summit Racing @ $5.95 Each... They are pre-gapped from E3 with no gapping necessary...
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How much did they run you and were did you getem? What gap are you going with.
We'll see, how they do, I don't expect that they will do anything like a CEL, or reduce gas mileage, but again only time will tell... I'm planning on installing tomorrow...
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These caused a knock sesnor code to come up in my wife's Accord. I switched back to NGK's and it went away.

I also lost about 40-50 miles per tank full. I had them in for about a month. They seemed ok at first.
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Let us know how they are? Something new that looks promissing. Hope they work out well for you.
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The E3 prototypes we tested outlasted all non-platinum spark plug in longevity even though they were made from mild steel. For production plugs, we use a special high-temperature alloy with a high nickel content plus additional elements to make an extremely long-lived electrode pair.
Well, thats from the E3 marketing web page and with marketing, if it says one thing, then it implies another. They say they outlast other standard non-platinum plugs, and they are not platinum plugs themselves. This directly implies platinum plugs are better. The stock TBSS plugs are platinum plugs...so put two and two together here.

Let us know how they work out and keep your factory plugs on the bench ready to be reinstalled once you get pissed at the E3 plugs.

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Well, thats from the E3 marketing web page and with marketing, if it says one thing, then it implies another. They say they outlast other standard non-platinum plugs, and they are not platinum plugs themselves. This directly implies platinum plugs are better. The stock TBSS plugs are platinum plugs...so put two and two together here.

Let us know how they work out and keep your factory plugs on the bench ready to be reinstalled once you get pissed at the E3 plugs.

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The stock plugs that came out of my TBSS are iridium.
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Seems like alot of guys are being negative without anyone even trying these plugs. I could see if a bunch of us had tried them and had mixed feelings about them but no one has even tried them yet. Who knows they might be great for our trucks, we dont have to over think everything. David go 4 it let me know, at least you did something.
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I stand corrected, thought they were Plat. Iridium is better right?
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I stand corrected, thought they were Plat. Iridium is better right?
Yes, from longevity standpoint anyway.
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They really don't contradict themselves, they say that since there is more surface area on their plugs, they won't wear as fast as regular plugs (non-platinum)... but they do warrant them for 100,000 miles... And don't worry I only have 4,500 miles on my truck, an I will keep my stock plugs...

On to next business, I was able to change only half of my plugs today before running out of light, the hard side, and I did so by raising up the passenger side and removing the tire and the inner fender-well liner, made it alot easier, removed all 4 plugs, threaded the rear three from below, stood on my spare tire and threaded the #1? front sparkplug from ontop (after releasing the A/C line braket next to the oil fill tube), that and removing the airbox makes it relatively easy... I used loc-tite 1800 degree anti-seize, and had ABSOLUTELY no problems with my Granetelli 2811HT wires, pulled off no problems, though I was careful.... next I tightened and put everything together and started her up just for 30 seconds to make sure there was no backfire or CEL.... walla presto everything looked and sounded great...

I also installed the AFE in place of the K&N, and let me tell you in advance.... Cut off the two 1/2 in spacers at the top of the filter, the larger cone filter for the CAI kits are much larger, and those two spacers (on the AFE) make the difference between whether or not the factory airbox will fit...

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Well, thats from the E3 marketing web page and with marketing, if it says one thing, then it implies another. They say they outlast other standard non-platinum plugs, and they are not platinum plugs themselves. This directly implies platinum plugs are better. The stock TBSS plugs are platinum plugs...so put two and two together here.

Let us know how they work out and keep your factory plugs on the bench ready to be reinstalled once you get pissed at the E3 plugs.

http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/diamondfire.htm
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In short, if you want a true performance plug BUY COPPER and spend the money you saved on something that'll truely make a difference.

The only thing these designer electrode plugs will do for you is lighten your wallet. I've been in this game a long time. Sorry, but I don't have to spend extra cash to prove this is all a marketing ploy. This has been proven time and again with the gimicky plugs like splitfire, rapidfires, Bosch +2 and +4. If these plugs did truely increase power then they would be used extensively and would have been a long time ago. The only increases you will get from a plug change is regianing lost power because your plugs were getting fouled or regaining power because you needed a different heat range.


Now to bust up the quote from their propganda page.
"The E3 prototypes we tested outlasted all non-platinum spark plug in longevity even though they were made from mild steel. For production plugs, we use a special high-temperature alloy with a high nickel content plus additional elements to make an extremely long-lived electrode pair."

High nickle content will make the electrode harder and more heat resistant etc. It will do all of NOTHING for making the electrode more conductive. I would see it actually hindering conductivity. They are bragging that their electrode is mild steel with nickle...so what. What are the wires in your house made of? Copper. Ever wonder why? Because copper conducts electricity better than any other metal. Will these steel plugs last longer? Sure. Will they deliver a stronger spark? No way!
The metals like platinum and irridium don't conduct as well as copper, but they are harder and last longer. This is the only benefit to them also. Consider that both of these metals will conduct electricity better than steel and for the price of these steel eletroded plugs you could have Plat or Irid which will last longer and deliver a better spark than the E3.

So they have more surface area. Ever really watch an electrode work or check out a used one closely? More surface area doesn't matter because the spark will only jump from the 2 closest points. If all the the distances are closest it'll find a path and keep using that path. Its the whole least resistance concept. I agree that these plugs look like they would shroud the kernal and hinder ignition more than help.

Now if you believe all their hype let me know and I'll hook you up with a turbonator, tornado air, and a fuel catalyst. All have had claims of increased HP and efficiency too. Hell, I'll even teach you the benefits of roller muffler bearings and DOT 5.75 synthetic blinker fluid.
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